Twenty years each — Different theaters. Different specializations. One shared conviction: that the truth about how people work should be taught — not kept as tradecraft.
"What transforms ordinary skill into a serious tool is intention, discipline, and method. Elicitation isn't just pleasant conversation — it's conversation with a precise objective."
"The best interrogator I ever saw in the field was not the most technical, not the toughest. They were the one who made the person across from them feel treated as a human being."
These aren't marketing promises. They're the direct result of what Max and O'Neill learned the hard way — in environments where a wrong technique cost more than a deal.
The Intelligence Pillar — four courses built on two decades of field work. Elicitation, Interrogation, Debriefing, and Body Language. Everything they learned, filtered for real-world application.